Disorganized Attachment or Why You Think You’re Crazy But Really Aren’t


People with insecure attachment: avoidant, anxious or disorganized, tend to have a much more interesting time in therapy than people who formed secure attachments in childhood. I want to talk about insecure attachment and its affect on therapy, with an emphasis on disorganized attachment since that was with what I struggled. Human beings are born unable to care for themselves in any way; they are totally dependent literally as a matter of life and death on their caregiver, usually their mother, but whomever it is that is responsible for caring for them as a child. (That’s so our heads are small enough so that a baby can be delivered. Can you imagine delivering a child with an adult sized head? Time out for all the readers who have delivered babies to wince and say “OUCH!” Okay, everyone back?) There is a biological imperative for the child to stay close and there is a corresponding biological imperative on the part of the caregiver to respond to the needs of the infant. Thus the two humans, infant and caregiver, form an attachment bond. Humans form attachments throughout their life, but none as profound or far-reaching as the one they experience with their parents. That bond, formed while we are developing, has the power to shape both how we see ourselves and the nature of the universe in which we live.

Human beings are born with a brain and nervous system that are still developing and growing and part of what is necessary for that growth is to be “attuned” with a caregiver so that the needed development growth can take place through an implicit learning system. Explicit learning is you sitting down and learning your times tables or studying history. Implicit learning is the learning we achieve by doing something over and over. There was a time that we might have been conscious of it, but we learn to do it without having to think about it. Think of the act of reading, as you are doing now. Are you thinking of each letter, and each sound it makes? Are you thinking about the meaning of each word, the grammatical structure of each sentence (let’s not look too closely at that, shall we?) or having to parse each syllable to recognize a word? There was a time when you had to do all that, but now you just read. You take in the information without having to “think” about the actual act of reading.

Current research posits two types of memory: implicit and explicit. There was a fascinating case study of a man whose brain was injured in an accident so that he could only retain memories for five minutes at a time; his only long term memories were those that he had at the time of the accident. He could neither form or store long term memories going forward from the accident. If all memory was explicit, stored in such a way that we had to “fetch” our memory to do a skill, then you would believe this man incapable of learning a new skill. But he was taught to braid every day (a skill he did not have before the accident). Through persistent repetition he learned the skill so that when asked if he could braid, he would answer no because he had formed no long term memory of learning to braid, but if three stands were placed in his hands, he could braid because he had the implicit memory created by the training. Such are many of the skills we learn as infants, they are learned by being in the presence of a wiser, stronger, other who repetitively models the behaviors and skills we need to learn until they become part of who we are. Explicit memories cannot be formed until our frontal lobes come “online” which usually happens somewhere around the age of two. Implicit memories, however, are theorized to be held in more primitive areas of the brain that are already operating at birth, so we start to form implicit memories from the get-go. Which is why much of this knowledge is out of our consciousness.

Among the many skills we need to learn are the ability to identify our feelings, use those feelings to understand our needs, act to get our needs met, and regulate our feelings. Even more important is our sense of what kind of place the universe is: do we matter, can we affect what is around us, is it good?

When you have a “good enough” parent, then your AF is attuned to you. They pay close attention and mirror your responses, they identify your needs and meet them, when you cry out you are attended to, when you are upset they move close to soothe you, if you are in danger, they move to protect you. This teaches you on a fundamental level that the universe is a good place in which you matter, when you express yourself you can reasonably expect to be responded to and most of the time your needs are met in a timely matter. You also learn to understand yourself, your needs and how to go about making them known and getting them met as you move away from people who are attuned enough to not have to ask.

But what happens when your caregiver is not able to be attuned or attend to you as you deserve? It is a biological, life and death imperative to stay close to the caregiver, so a child learns to accommodate themselves to the caregiver in order to stay near them and survive. Which is where the insecure attachment styles come into play.

Some parents do not themselves have secure attachment so they lack the skills to bond properly with their children. If a caregiver is consistently unavailable, or not willing to meet a child’s needs, the child learns through being rebuffed time and again, to keep their needs to themselves because going towards the other leaves them unsatisfied or hurt. If you know the answer is always “no” you stop asking the question. They therefore exhibit no outward stress when an AF departs and do not seek reunion when they return. There is an air of “I’ll do it myself, I don’t need you” that protects them enough to stay close in order to get their physical needs met. In other words, they deny their own feelings and needs in order to be allowed to stay in proximity. (I should note that although outwardly an avoidant child exhibits no distress, physiological factors during attachment testing shows elevated levels of pulse and blood pressure, indicating distress that the child has learned to hide. The appearance of detachment is deceptive.)

Other parents are available at times but at others are not. So the child learns that what they need is only available sometimes, without being able to predict when those times will be. This leads them to an anxious attachment style in which they stay as close as possible to the AF, cutting off the natural exploration and differentiation of normal development, in order not to miss any care they can manage to get. This child exhibits a high amount of distress when separated and is not easily soothed during separation, unlike a secure baby, because they cannot trust the return of the “good” caregiver. They are also not soothed by the return of the caregiver because they can’t be sure what they’re going to get. So they live in a high state of hyper vigilance, ignoring their own needs because they are too busy trying to catch the moments when their caregiver is available.

The last style of disorganized attachment is most common in the event of childhood abuse. Your AF is supposed to be a source of comfort, a refuge of protection, the person who comes alongside you when faced with overwhelming circumstances. When a parent is abusive the same person is the source of being hurt and overwhelmed AND the source of comfort and protection. So do you move towards the person upon whom your life depends or stay away from this overwhelming source of pain? This leads to a child without a consistent attachment style. Sometimes they will use avoidant strategies and at other times behaviors associated with anxious attachment. In addition to both of those though, there is also a “freezing” or disassociation. Because sometimes they took care of you, and sometimes they hurt you, the child is unable to develop a consistent way of dealing with them. That’s what the freezing and/or disassociating is about, the child would literally be at such a loss as to how to handle it that they would just hold still and/or go away so as not to have to make a choice.

When a person with insecure attachment enters therapy, something very powerful can happen. The therapeutic relationship is “a strange duck but closest to a parental one” to quote BN. For the first time in their lives, for some people, we experience a relationship which is focused on our needs, with a person who is attuned to us and is working to understand us. One of the worst byproducts of insecure attachment is that a child “learns” the lie that they do not matter, that their feelings are not important enough to matter and their needs will not be met. The universe is perceived as a hostile place which wounds much more often than it rewards. But now we are faced with a person who is acting as if we DO matter, as if our needs are important. This can awaken our old unmet needs for attunement, for being able to see ourselves clearly reflected, of our unmet desires to be special, loved, admired, and cherished. And because these needs were at their strongest when we first experienced them and we were completely dependent, they are felt with the life and death intensity that was true when we were little.

So we enter therapy unsuspecting of the deep, intense reactions that can be invoked. And for people with disorganized attachment this can feel like you’re going crazy. :) On an adult, cognitive level you can see no reason why this person should stir up such intense emotions, longings and yearnings. You get that you only see them one or two hours a week (and a 50 minute hour at that) so how could they possibly be so important to you? I believe because a therapist is acting as a caregiver and providing the kind of attention and attunement you didn’t get when you should have, these needs burst forth from where they have been suppressed for a life time, responding to the promise held out by the inherent structure of therapy.

So it is in interacting with out therapists that we can learn our unconscious ways of relating. I know with the Boundary Ninja I have exhibited both the avoidant behavior of not wanting him to matter and wanting to flee the relationship alternating with terror that he wouldn’t be there and needing to contact him, sometimes multiple times between appointments to make sure he was still there. These behaviors could flip flop back and forth at a really high rate, sometimes within minutes of each other.

When you are abused, you learn the very difficult painful lesson that to move towards the other brings pain and injury. But humans are built such that we need others, we are formed for attachment. We need others to meet our needs. So you have two imperatives screaming at you “move closer or die” and “move closer, you die.” You can understand why this would feel chaotic and terrifying. But where it really gets difficult is that in order to heal, to learn to move close enough to get your needs met, indeed to learn HOW to get your needs met, you need to move closer. But that is the very thing that the primitive part of your brain, the part responsible for keeping you safe, sees as the most dangerous thing in the world. You must walk into the heart of your terror, again and again, until you have enough good experiences of moving closer to form an implicit memory to counteract your memories of being injured in relationship. This can take a very long time and be very confusing while you’re doing it. BN calls this the “hellish bind” that makes healing such an uphill battle for people abused by a caregiver.

This is why my first rule of therapy when you’re not sure what to bring up in session is to pick the thing that scares you the most and talk about it first.

It is often important for a person with insecure attachment to find a therapist who allows in between session contact. You cannot predict when your need for your AF will arise nor when you will need reassurance to calm your (very reasonable and understandable) fears. I cannot begin to tell you how hard the Boundary Ninja worked to convince me that not only COULD I call but that it was therapeutic to do so, that I needed to learn to ask for what I needed and experience it being met and also experience that there really was a dependable other I could trust. I was so desperate to not be abandoned by BN but was absolutely amazed at my creative abilities in finding reasons I HAD to leave. Every time I moved closer it would rear it’s head and I would have to deal with it. I remember one time being really upset about the thought of leaving therapy but when I really stopped and looked at how I felt, I realized I was terrified to stay. I had never been so close to someone before with intact boundaries and it just didn’t feel right. Either he needed to abuse or abandon me so at least I could know that I was facing something familiar. The fact that he steadfastly calmly refused to do neither scared the socks off me. Part of what I’m trying to convey is that although now I can look back and explain what was happening so clearly, that’s only in retrospect. At the time and as I go through it, it’s painful, chaotic and really confusing.

So its important to talk to your therapist about all these intense feelings that are coming up so that they can help you understand the pattens and belief underlying your behavior towards them. I know how scary it can be to talk to your therapist about this stuff. I am VERY blessed to have BN. He stays utterly calm and accepting no matter what feelings I bring to him. But it’s still been scary EVERY time I’ve talked to him about my feelings for him. But over time, as I’ve experienced him NOT changing no matter what I’ve told him, I’ve really come to understand and believe on a “gut” level that I can talk to him about anything. That he really meant what he said about any and all of my feelings being welcome in his office. They will not be acted on, but all of them can be heard and understood. Another thing I have really appreciated is the fact that he doesn’t like the word transference. He’s always recognized that my feelings about him are real. But at the same time, we can also follow my feelings, and see the pattern in them that allows me to go back and see where and how I learned my beliefs and why I think the way I do. He holds both in place really well. One of the most healing things that he has done for me is to totally understand and accept just how central he is to who I am, how important he is to me, and how deeply I love him. He doesn’t shy away from it, even while he maintains crystal clear boundaries. And it is within this acceptance and understanding that I learned to believe that I do have worth and do matter, so that now I have an “earned” secure attachment. Because our brain is always capable of change and our attachment style is not set in stone. We can heal.

  1. April
    October 14, 2011 at 11:32 pm | #1

    What does AF stand for?
    I’ve been in therapy for a year and a half and almost left twice–most recently a few weeks ago. At the same time, I know, and he knows, that the idea of ending it makes me feel scared. I hate feeling dependent on him and I get so frustrated with myself because, as you said, “On an adult, cognitive level you can see no reason why this person should stir up such intense emotions, longings and yearnings.” I feel really churned up inside, and I flip flop back and forth with it, and I have conversations in my head with him all the time, and again, I get so frustrated with myself and him. It’s very hard to talk about because I keep thinking that it makes no sense.
    I like the idea of starting a session by talking about the thing that scares you the most. I guess I’ll keep going and keep trying. Thanks again for the good information.

    • October 15, 2011 at 12:03 am | #2

      Sorry April, bad habit from writing about the topic a lot on the forum. AF stands for attachment figure, which is usually your parents as a child. Our therapist can become an attachment figure for us if we still have unmet needs or development gone awry. What you are describing about your feelings for your T sounds like it may be true for you. I would really urge you to talk about these feelings with your T. And as far as it making no sense, I hope maybe this helped it make more sense. But I also want to leave you with another BN quote. I once told him that how I was feeling was so irrational. And he told me “so what? feelings often are, that doesn’t mean they don’t deserve to be heard.” AG

  2. Raven
    October 15, 2011 at 2:55 am | #3

    Intellectually understanding attachment has really helped me stick with therapy while the feelings I am experiencing have made me want to run away. It has been helpful to hear you describe how chaotic and painful it can be as these things are worked through – I struggle to understand how I can still find it hard to simply look at my therapist and take in that she is still there. And I did think I was completely mad in constantly asking for reassurance that she was there and asking to hear her voice in between sessions… But maybe I’m not. Thank you for making it all seem perfectly natural!

    • October 15, 2011 at 11:37 am | #4

      Raven said: And I did think I was completely mad in constantly asking for reassurance that she was there and asking to hear her voice in between sessions

      Raven, I find this completely understandable. :) Part of normal development is going out to explore but returning to the “secure base” of our AF before venturing out again. But it doesn’t take much. When BN was first talking to me about contacting him I told I would feel stupid calling, having him call me back and when he’d say hi, I’d say “that’s all I need.” He told me “but I know you and I know why that would be true.” The bulk of my phone calls were very short (2 – 3 mins, sometimes even shorter). BN used to call them my “patented one minute phone calls” when assuring me it wasn’t too much and was a really good thing to reach out. It’s really important to experience reaching out to make a need known and having it met. It helps keep you more stable, which means you can put more of your energy towards the work in therapy. I am so happy to hear that this is helping you feel more normal about this. AG

      • Raven
        October 15, 2011 at 12:09 pm | #5

        It’s starting to make sense to me why just hearing an answerphone message isn’t enough for me. It is about learning to express my need for connection and have that responded to. Every time I reach out, I am terrified that I will have exceeded some notional allocation of attention. My therapist assures me there’s no such quota, but it’s still a battle of wills between the little girl inside and my adult self. Will keep practising.
        Very grateful for encouragement.

  3. October 15, 2011 at 8:11 pm | #6

    I LOVE your writing AG, but you’ve got to use paragraphs.

    • October 15, 2011 at 8:42 pm | #7

      Hi River! Awesome to have you here reading! I read your comment and thought what IS she talking about? Then I looked at the post. There were paragraphs in the original but I wrote it in another program. I am also still learning my way around the WordPress software, so evidently somewhere along the way I lost the formatting and didn’t realize it. Thanks so much for letting me know as that must have been incredibly annoying! Fixed now. :) AG

  4. November 28, 2011 at 5:04 pm | #8

    This was amazingly helpful, thank you! My therapist sounds a lot like BN…..now if only I could handle more like you!

    • December 8, 2011 at 11:10 pm | #9

      Hi Normal,
      I’m so glad it helped! But I have no doubt you’re handling it as well as I did. One of the very real drawbacks in looking back now and talking about therapy and explaining what I NOW realized was going on, is that it does not manage to convey the confusion, chaos, fear, endless repetition and wandering in circles. I used to threaten to quit therapy at least once or twice a month to friends. And I lost count of how many times I told the BN I wanted to quit. Please know that it was not a pretty nor neat sight as I went through this. Many times I couldn’t even see my progress until a lot further down the road. And for a very long time I ran solely on the BN’s rock solid belief that I would heal and his willingness to tell me that 324,452 times. :) Thanks for commenting, and sorry it has taken so long to reply.

      AG

  5. number9
    December 12, 2011 at 8:05 pm | #10

    One of my biggest fears is reaching out to call someone when I’m in a bad place. I go thru the list- oh, that one doesn’t want to hear my crap, (people are very intolerant these days of someone “dumping” on them) I already called that one 2 weeks ago, that one is probably busy, those 2 are married and I don’t want to infringe on their boundaries, etc. Guess what? I don’t really have any friends because of this. So getting even a small message from my T can make my day. I also think that he is tired of me how lame I feel about it.

    So can attachment issues come from recent, adult experiences as well as the past? How everyone is so “busy” or has a family or spouse, and being single feels to me like I would just be a burden on anyone I reached out to?

    • December 13, 2011 at 12:15 am | #11

      Hi Number9, Thanks for commenting. I don’t think it’s so much that attachment issues are being caused by your adult relationships as much as it is that you are carrying beliefs due to insecure attachment that are causing you problems in your here and now relationships. You have deep beliefs that to ask for anything from anyone is some kind of burden or infringement. It is common in people who suffered neglect or abuse in childhood, that we become deeply ashamed of our needs, because our needs drove us to move towards relationship and we got hurt. So when you feel needy, it becomes close to impossible to reach out to other people because of the deep belief that your needs are always and everywhere too much. I understand this because I felt that way for a VERY long time. You have to keep going into your sessions and talking about these feelings to learn about your underlying beliefs about relationships. It’s possible to work through them. AG

  6. Tessa
    December 13, 2011 at 3:52 am | #12

    Wow, you answered some really difficult topics. Ones that we don’t want to ask, yet feel. It gives me a better understanding of what is going on and also that I can trust my feelings. It’s hard to admit abuse or abandonment or even that one is so scared of allowing an attachement to one’s therapist – to allow the trust.
    I still have a long way to go and everything in me shouts to leave – RUN! I’m really really scared and your blog has helped me to understand why I feel like a yo-yo.
    Thank you so much.
    (Megan)

    • December 13, 2011 at 1:11 pm | #13

      Tessa,
      I understand both the terror of opening up and the deep desire to flee. I actually developed a deep respect for my creativity and inventiveness when I started tracking all of the reasons I came up with about why I NEEDED to leave. It’s a hellish bind, because the very thing you need to do to heal is also the thing that you find the most dangerous to do. As hard as it can be though, I do want to encourage you, that with enough good experiences of moving closer, you do heal and it does eventually stop being so terrifying. I was very happy to hear that it is helping you to trust yourself. An important part of healing for me was learning that my reactions were reasonable based on my experience, and that I could learn to react differently. So can you. Thanks for reading and commenting.
      AG

  7. freeonthursdays
    February 26, 2012 at 11:12 am | #14

    I’m glad I read this blog again today because I’m struggling with this need to run away from therapy, to avoid dealing with the intense feelings. I recently tried to explain to my P some issues I’m dealing with because of these feelings and I wasn’t open enough with him so he wasn’t understanding. Then I found myself saying, (for the first time ever in therapy), it just doesn’t matter.

    Now, after reading this blog, I realize why I was saying that, because I grew up suppressing my feelings and telling myself that it didn’t matter. My feelings didn’t matter because they weren’t heard as a child and I became an expert at suppressing them. I realize I’m trying to push my P away and get him to respond in a way I’m accustomed to, which would be to agree with me…yes, your feelings really don’t matter. They’re not important, so we’ll talk about something else. Thank you AG for sharing your journey, which provides so much insight and hope for those of us still struggling.

    • February 28, 2012 at 11:25 pm | #15

      FOT,
      I am very glad that it helped you to gain some insight into your situation. I have always been so impressed by how you very bravely continue to wrestle with your healing and and go back time and again, even when scared, to try and learn. Thanks for making me part of your journey.

      AG

  8. Noname
    April 24, 2012 at 12:48 am | #16

    Wow! I just read this and realized why Iim freaked out towards my T most of the time. Holy shit.

    • April 25, 2012 at 11:33 am | #17

      Hi Noname,
      Welcome to my blog! I’m really glad that this helped you to understand what is going on. Sometimes I think the most important stuff in healing from these injuries is realizing we’re NOT crazy. Our actions and feelings make complete sense when viewed in the right context. This is not pathology, but development gone awry.

      AG

  9. George
    October 15, 2012 at 11:32 pm | #18

    Ugh, the more I read about attachment theory the more it seems to describe a lot of my issues. It’s a little confusing, what I read, because different writers seem to be vary in how the insecure attachments are described and named. Based on what you say above, I’d say I’m the anxious type, but as per other things I’ve read, there’s also some avoidant type behavior that I do (“I need you and you disappointed me, so I’m going to punish you and try not to need you so much.”). I just had a thing today with my T that relates to this, in part, because of my need for reassurance and his inadequate response to it. It seems to be beyond boundary maintenance with him and moving in to “withholding” territory, like he’s already done enough. I don’t get that reassurance and soothing kindness from him; in fact he seems to deliberately withhold it, possibly because he thinks it’s good for me or maybe just because he’s a bit cold. This is not the first time it’s happened, and I’ve confronted him with it in the past, but he never changes. It’s a sad feeling, being hung out to dry like that. He’s a good fit in many ways, but I don’t have the experience, in this regard, of asking for what I need and getting an answer, either affirmative or negative. It’s like we’re speaking a different language. :(

  10. Marissa
    January 28, 2013 at 12:55 am | #19

    Hi There,
    I am just starting to learn about attachment theory (something I have become interested in because I feel like the older I get the more I realize my boundaries are totally off) and I’m trying to determine what my style is. I have never been abused, at least not in the way I have formerly thought of abuse. But, my growing up my mom was always battling depression. She would be in her bed for days at a time. Meanwhile, my dad would not do anything to really address the problem. Could that make me disorganized?

    A couple of things that I have noticed I do that that make me think maybe I am disorganized:
    - I am completely open with people I just meet to the point that almost everyone I meet says that they feel really comfortable around me…I have always thought this was a good thing.

    - The above usually leads to a friendship where that same open behavior continues.

    -Then a number of different things can happen: If they want to spend a lot of time with me, I start to feel overwhelmed and push them away. If they hurt me in some way…lie to me, break my trust somehow…I cannot forgive them and often won’t talk to them again. With men, I have found myself recently in relationships where we are friends and then all of a sudden I have this overwhelming need to start dating them. I begin to do nutty things like tell them I love them. I know it is crossing a boundary, but I have this romantic part of me that thinks- well, maybe we are such good friends and we could be more.

    Anyway, I’m totally crazy. I can look at it logically and realize how completely immature my behavior is, but at the same time, in the moment it seems like that only choice.

    Also, for a bit more context. The last boyfriend I had I dated for 2 years. Around the 6th month of our relationship it occurred to me that I was going to have to depend on him for stuff. It struck me that that is what happens in relationships. I cannot ever remember feeling like I could do this before. Over time, I began to really depend on him and he on me. Then, he suddenly- out of nowhere- ended our relationship and I really don’t think I have been the same since. That was 4 years ago.

    All that said, do you think I have disorganized attachment based on all of that? And, do you have any tips for me so that moving forward?

    Thank you for your post. It is really eye-opening.

    • January 30, 2013 at 10:48 pm | #20

      Hi Marissa,
      Welcome to my blog and thanks for commenting. I agree with what Greeneyes said. Having a depressed mother often means that your mother is neither available or attuned because of the depresion and that can lead to insecure attachment and missed developmental steps. You sound more anxious than disorganized to me (as if you had to be very focused in your mother so you could get whatever care she would sometimes offer. There is a great quiz on the internet at Attachment Style. It takes around five minutes to do but give you your results on a quadrant which I think s really helpful. I have tracked my progress from insecure to secure attachment by periodically going through this.

      My best tip, if you feel like this dynamic is really interfering in your life, would be to seek out a therapist who undertands the fallout of growing up with a depressed mother. Because we are injured in relationship, we are also healed in relationship. Therapy is a good place to bring our unconscious beliefs and patterns into consciousness so we can change them. If we have had to deal with an absent or neglecful parent (not saying that was deliberate on the part of your mother but that her depression may have interfered with her ability to take care of you) we adapt and learn behaviors that are effective as they allow us to stay close and to survive but as adults these same behaviors often become maladaptive and become the very thing holding us back. I hope that helps and I wish you the best in healing. ~ AG

      • Marissa
        February 3, 2013 at 6:07 pm | #21

        Thank you so much for your response. I am going to take the test now and make an appointment with a therapist for next week. Cheers to making relationships work!

        Marissa

      • February 4, 2013 at 12:47 pm | #22

        Glad to hear it Marissa, please let me know how you get on. :)

  11. GreenEyes
    January 28, 2013 at 6:36 pm | #23

    Marisa, there are lots of questionnaire’s on the internet that can help you determine your attachment style. You’re not crazy, growing up with a depressed mother who was emotionally unavailable possibly means you have a lot of unfulfilled needs from the past that are cropping up in your romantic relationships. From the information you’ve provided it sounds there is some defensive splitting going on when things get heated in your relationships. Some individuals classified as “preoccupied” can have a push/pull interpersonal dynamic. Regardless, cumulative relational trauma (chronic misattunements, failure to repair ruptures in relationships) can be just as devastating as physical/sexual abuse etc and could lead to a disorganised style.

    • Marissa
      February 3, 2013 at 6:08 pm | #24

      Thank you GreenEyes for your empathetic and insightful response. I am going to get googling all of the things you mentioned.

      All the best!
      Marissa

  12. February 13, 2013 at 7:14 pm | #25

    I hear you sister! This blog post was really helpful to read. The most painful feelings in the world are surely the horrible turmoils of disorganised attachment and the daily struggle in relation to the therapist. I would gladly suffer all the physical pain I have ever endured added together and loaded onto me all at once than endure this emotional torture. ‘Chaotic’, ‘terrifying’ and ‘Hellish bind’ are perfect words for it and the “move closer or die” and “move closer, you die” scenario is too real. At best there is a small hope that my therapist is right in saying that if the work is done, the end won’t also be the end of me. I cling to that hope because there is nothing else. Loving your name for your therapist; he definitely sounds like he is doing a good job. Good luck with your healing. I hope to read more posts soon. Thanks for sharing this one.

    • February 13, 2013 at 11:01 pm | #26

      Hi Candy,
      Welcome to my blog and thanks for commenting. I’m sorry you understand what I am talking about so well. I will tell you that I took a four month break about a year and a half ago, then returned on a very irregular basis, which went to weekly, then I decided to take another break. Through all this my sense of security and trust has deepened with BN to a point where although I can miss him very much when not going (trying to work through that part now) I no longer worry about the relationship. I had to learn to let go of what he symbolized but not the actual here and now relationship. That part I get to keep and its very precious to me. So it will not be the end of you! Glad you liked the nickname, trust me he earns it. :) Looking forward to hearing more from you. ~AG

  13. DM
    March 4, 2013 at 12:52 am | #27

    Thank you for writing this. I am glad for your positive experience in healing and hope to find my own one day. My T was just like your BN for a couple years, until one day she changed her mind without any warning. I felt like I shattered. She responded to my vulnerability/need with unsympathetic, rigid sternness (which translated as anger) instead of her normal comfort/supportive/kind/understanding type of response, I started to cry, and she “gave me a moment to get myself together” while she went to the bathroom. I walked out on her (ran, really), totally confused, angry, hurt, unsure what just happened. It felt so familiar to what I grew up dealing with, but yet I paid her to be different. She was supposed to be different than all those others. I kicked myself for ever trusting her, and felt humiliated that it was such a big deal to me. Didn’t go back for a couple weeks, and when I did, we talked about it, and she never could see what my problem was. All I got was “I’ve been thinking about it for a while and decided to change how I treat you”, never even an acknowledgement that she heard my hurt. Things were never the same. From then on I was guarded and she would get frustrated that I wasn’t moving very far. I tried many times to explain what happened that day, but she never got it. I finally fired her a few months ago after sticking it out for another sporadic year or so. My brain knows it wasn’t about me and that she wasn’t being malicious, but my heart feels just as broken and damaged/disorganized as it was before I ever stepped into T and I’m starting to realize that my other relationships are suffering because I still can’t seem to let anyone close, even though I ache mightily for it. How do you recover from that? When the trained, professional helper heaps on more hurt?

  14. March 6, 2013 at 9:52 am | #28

    Hi DM,
    Welcome to my blog and thank you for commenting. I am sorry it has taken so long to respond to you, I got a head cold on top of working a lot of OT, both of which have sidelined me.

    I am very sorry for what happened to you. It’s why a therapist has to take their responsibility to their clients so seriously and even more importantly, recognize their tremendous symbolic power, they are not the same as your dentist or accountant, even if the relationship is also a professional one as well as personal. It sounds like your therapist did not place her boundaries in a place with which she was really comfortable or which she could continue to maintain while practicing good self care, then when the strain started to tell, instead of seeing this as her responsibility, she instead got angry with you for not getting well “fast” enough. I know it can be difficult working with clients with deep trust issues (I think it took me three years until I truly started to trust BN for long lengths of time and I can still get scared in times of stress about him disappearing) but that means a therapist has to work at knowing its not about them or what they are doing, its about the clients history. Even under the best of circumstances, if your therapist had her own feelings and needs under control, and decided a different course of treatment was important, she totally blew it by not being able to empathize with how difficult and painful it would be for you to make that shift. Your (quite reasonable IMO) hurt and feelings of abandonment should have been heard and accepted (not in the sense that she had to say she did something wrong, but that she could recognize why it would feel that way for you. This is actually the part that makes me suspect it was about her. She felt guilty on some level, so she got so defensive she was unable to hear you.) So I first wanted to acknowledge that you did nothing wrong by expressing your feelings and expecting your T to handle hers.

    I understand your struggle with how you go on. You actually risked opening up and got hurt again and in a way that felt very similar to your early experiences, which has strongly reinforced your sense that opening up is a really dangerous thing to do and should be avoided at all costs. But this leaves you in the same terrible place, unable to get your needs met because you can’t let anyone in enough to meet them. I have seen other people go through this kind of abandonment by their therapist and the only thing that has seemed to help is to find another therapist, but one they can trust. It can take a very long time to heal from this kind of injury, so it is helpful if you look for another therapist who specializes in helping people who have been injured in therapy; they’ll know what they’re up against. If you can’t find that, look for someone with a lot of experience (20+ years) and then question them about these situations in the initial session. If you see any defensiveness on their part, run! My strongest litmus test for a good therapist is their openness and comfort level with any and all of your feelings, even if its about them, without getting defensive. You may want to check out the forums at Psychcafe. There are a number of people working through bad abandonments by therapists and reading about their journey might be helpful for you. I wish you all the best in your healing. AG

  15. David of Royston Vasey
    April 14, 2013 at 6:46 pm | #29

    Good article about an important issue which ruins peoples lives and sets them up for failure. I was child to two soul murdered schizoid/failed narcissist parents who were both industrially toxic “caregivers”. My Smother’s favourite trick was to ask “Have you got any worries?”. When I told them my true fears (foolish I) they were dismissed as insignificant and I was being “a pest”. In short, they feared love and caused me to do the same. Any love towards them would have Hardcore Scorn poured on it.
    My Soul went into exile to avoid them killing the real me.
    As an adult I started pouring scorn on my parents’ rantings. I got croc tears from my smother and my smelly father had never been so insulted in his life. Anyway he tried to cut his wrists one day and I bollocked him saying he was a F*** Up King and he couldn’t even do that right. He got the humph and I have never spoken to him since.
    My Philophobic Erotophobic Smother has had the boundaries drawn and hopefully is more amenable to the parenting I tried to give her (and she resisted as these “parents” do) when I was being Parentified as a child.
    Society blames survivors like us: Scorn the Survivor: Excuse the Abuser. Sounds so familiar it’s boring.

    • May 4, 2013 at 11:03 pm | #30

      Hi David,
      Forgive me for my appallingly terrible response time, I somehow managed to miss this while I was away. Welcome to my blog. I can see this really resonated with you and for good reason. I am sorry for what you went through with your parents, you did not deserve that, but glad you have achieved clarity about how wrong it was. No small achievement.

      AG

  16. May 17, 2013 at 12:00 pm | #31

    Great blog! Thanks for posting.

    • May 18, 2013 at 11:54 am | #32

      Hi Cindy,
      Welcome to my blog and thanks for taking the time to say thanks! :) AG

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